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Prayers and Praise. / Re: The Greatness of our God
« on: October 15, 2025, 06:37:58 pm »
Hi there.  Haven't seen you in quite a while.  Hope things are going well for you.
Hello Kerry.

 I stopped being even semi-active on that other forum [CB] some time ago. Rita sent me a message and so I am looking around here again. I have been fighting cancer again, but my last scan a few months ago I was in the clear. Yesterday they did a PET scan and I should have the results tomorrow. One day at the time!

I don't get around much these days. I read or watch old movies. I stopped driving completely a few months ago after having minor mishap.

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: An Eye for an Eye
« on: October 15, 2025, 06:30:46 pm »
If the mountain seems to big today then climb a hill instead,
If the morning brings you sadness, it’s OK to stay in bed.
If the day ahead weighs heavy and your plans feel like a curse, there’s no shame in rearranging and don’t make yourself feel worse.
If a shower stings like needles and a bath feels like you’ll drown, if you haven’t washed your hair for days don’t throw away your crown.
A day is not a lifetime,
A rest is not defeat.
Don’t think of it as failure just a quiet kind of retreat.
It’s O K to take a moment from an anxious fractured mind, the world will not stop turning while you get realigned.
The mountain will still be there when you want to try again, you can climb in your own time, just love yourself ‘till then.

Thanks to whoever wrote it, it hit the spot one morning for me.

I just read this Dave and it hit the spot with me as well.

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Prayers and Praise. / Re: The Greatness of our God
« on: October 15, 2025, 06:10:50 pm »
Here I am looking around again. Rita re-invited me since I am seldom regular on any forum anymore. This place is full of familiar names. Hello everyone and God bless you.

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: June 04, 2025, 01:20:57 am »
No, I absolutely believe God is no respecter of persons.  Nor do I believe all the "natural children" of Israel are part of the true Israel. 

Most people are hard pressed to explain how God knew two sons representing two nations were about to be born to Rebekah and how they would turn out.  Ever wonder why Esau and Cain were older but turned out poorly?  Why have the bad sons born first?  Why let them start off with the birthright? 

Why did God love Isaac but hate Esau?  The word "hate" should probably be translated as "avoided" in the passage.

Malachi 1:2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.


Maybe a new thread would be in order?  I can deal with it either way since "forgiveness" is still involved. 

We find the book of Job starting off by saying he was perfect.  So why was Satan given power over him?  And when Job repented, what did he repent of?  If Job represents Israel, why was he told to sacrifice then for his three Gentile friends?
 

For each of your questions and mine, God has answers, but the answers for you may not work for me and vice versa. God has lessons, I believe for each of us in accord with what we are and where we are at the moment. I believe there have been a lot of studies done with regard to hating Esau, but probably not so much about the older children turning out poorly. I had thoughts myself about the perfection of Job, but not lately. I have considered him as perfect early with what he had in the way of gifts and experiences. He then went through trials allowing him the opportunity to grow some more.

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Members' Corners and forum updates / Re: Helen's Corner
« on: June 01, 2025, 03:47:26 pm »
Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside, of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush" (Exod. 3:1,2).


The vision came in the midst of common toil, and that is where the Lord delights to give His revelations. He seeks a man who is on the ordinary road, and the Divine fire leaps out at his feet. The mystic ladder can rise from the market place to Heaven. It can connect the realm of drudgery with the realms of grace.
My Father God, help me to expect Thee on the ordinary road. I do not ask for sensational happenings. Commune with me through ordinary work and duty. Be my Companion when I take the common journey. Let the humble life be transfigured by Thy presence.
Some Christians think they must be always up to mounts of extraordinary joy and revelation; this is not after God's method. Those spiritual visits to high places, and that wonderful intercourse with the unseen world, are not in the promises; the daily life of communion is. And it is enough. We shall have the exceptional revelation if it be right for us.
There were but three disciples allowed to see the transfiguration, and those three entered the gloom of Gethsemane. No one can stay on the mount of privilege. There are duties in the valley. Christ found His life-work, not in the glory, but in the valley and was there truly and fully the Messiah.
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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: June 01, 2025, 03:37:40 pm »
I see a difference.  I believe the original Israel consisted of 144,000 souls. Their names were written in the Book of Life from the foundation of this world.  The Lamb was also slain from the foundation of the world. 

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

We often call people Jews when they worship as Jews.  They got "added on" but they do not have the same guarantee as the original Israel  -- they can be fooled.

The original Israel were like Jesus' sheep.  Not one can be lost.  If one got lost, it was temporary.  The shepherd would go find him.  No matter where the original 144,000 may have wound up (even being born among Gentiles at times), not one could possibly be lost forever.
 
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

These sheep knew Jesus from the foundation of the world. Thus he could call them and they came. "My sheep hear my voice and come at my call."  They were his sheep before he called them.  They took a vow to help Jesus from the foundation of this world.  They volunteered for the job, knowing it could cause them many problems.  Some might become blinded by the world and fall into error; but God would never permit them to be lost. The agreement gave Jesus the right to interfere with their so-called free will. Their true will was to honor their vow; and if they fell into error, it would be a "false will" giving Jesus the right to interfere. 

Consider now how the numbers of "Israel" swelled in Egypt.  What was it,  600,000 came out with Moses? We see that many Gentiles had been added on then; and we also see it caused problems.  Yes, the original souls suffered; but it was worth it since so many souls got added on.  As Paul put it, many of the original Israel were "blinded." But it paid off well.

Christians usually read Isaiah 53 as referring to Jesus while Jesus read it as referring to Israel.  I think it's both. 

The uniqueness of the original Israel is also shown here:

Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.


Thank you for the scriptures and the explanation of where you are on this. To me it seems that your position/belief would be making God a respecter of persons, which I do not believe Him to be. It would boil down to a OSAS belief only with regard to the 144,000 natural children of Jacob.

"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" Acts 10:34

"But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. Luke 12:48

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: May 30, 2025, 12:04:55 am »
Notice that the "new covenant" is with Judah.  Many people read it as referring to Gentiles, but I do not.

Gentiles never hear the Voice of God -- or the Divine Word -- as Israel did.  Moses heard it all and understood it all.  Joshua understood more; but the people heard and understood only the Decalogue often called the Ten Commandments.  There were far more than ten given however.  The ten sayings or ten words were what Israel could understand.

Who are the Gentiles other than the heathen unbelievers? Do they not consist of many of the natural children of Jacob as well other natural offspring of Adam? 

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They did not want to hear the Voice of God. It was too loud and threatening to them.  If they had been totally perfect or even willing to be totally perfect, it would have been a "profound silence."  They rejected God then in large part in a way Gentiles never did since they didn't face this test.

Why insist on a natural separation between Jew and Gentile according to the natural bloodlines? Do such differences ultimately make any difference to God?  

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The "written laws" Moses produced then were in the human language.  It was not the Living Word however.  It was the "Word of God" only in a limited way, the best a human language could convey the Truth.  The Living Word is Eternal, will never pass away. It was Perfect from the beginning and there was never any reason to change any of it or to drop parts of it. David and Jesus were referring to the Spiritual Law and not to the written words of humans when they wrote:
I believe I understand your meaning and I agree with you. The letter of Scripture left alone, unread and not understood is dead to men. If it has come to Life, it has done so by the quickening of the Holy Spirit. 

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Psalm 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

How else could Gentiles do the things "in the law" and be rewarded for it?  If they obeyed their consciences, they could.

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

I say it's not really Scripture until it's written on the heart as Jeremiah wrote.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

These physical objects were meant to remind Israel to lay up God's words in their hearts and souls.
Types and shadows are here to hopefully lead to reality. The Living Word of God is Reality. The letter of even the scriptures is dead and like man himself following any lead other than the Holy Spirit remains a fiction until and if quickened. 

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: May 29, 2025, 11:35:07 pm »
Amadeus, best response that I can give to your many questions is to tell you that they are identical to so much that preoccupies my thoughts and convictions.
I conclude that 'great minds think alike' ... or more to the point great minds are led similarly by the Holy Spirit.
Your quote from Jeremiah is constantly brought to my attention by the Holy Spirit and is one of the 'milestones' of my walk of faith.
God bless you ... Mike

I believe that God always has more for anyone who is seeking more in the right way. Men are always limited but God is without limits. Just within the written Book of what we call scripture there are unfathomed depths. Are there also things of or from God that are not included in written Scriptures?

 1jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

How like Him can we be?

Joh 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
Joh 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
 
About whom was Jesus praying? Was it about you and me? He and His Father were one! If Jesus was praying for us, would we or could we then in all points become as He is? Consider this in terms of being like or even part of a Trinity. Does this not raise questions as to what the Trinity is or even if there is such a thing?

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: May 28, 2025, 08:51:04 pm »
I can think of three others who "attained" while in physical bodies on this earth; but the world was not ready yet to receive the Gospel in full.  Enoch, Moses, and Elijah all partook of the Tree of Life, I would say.  Why were they here if the world was not ready yet?  To prepare the world in part, and to intercede also, and to pass down their annointing as Elijah did to Elisha. 

Yet the Cross should be seen as a physical symbol of the spiritual Tree of Life.

Also of interest is how Eve was drawn from the side of Adam -- again our Bibles tend to mistranslate that saying she was made from one of Adam's ribs  -- but it's from the side.  Compare that now to the blood which came from the side of Jesus at the Crucifixion.  Surely this represents the Spiritual Blood of Christ -- and the Bride of Christ was formed from it.
Has the world, that is the people in the world, ever been ready to grow more like God?

What is the "Gospel in full"?

What is the Word of God? When the NT had not been written or compiled or translated into a languages we could understand, did God communicate with men? Were men listening to or asking anything of God?

As a man, Jesus was growing? Lu 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.


As men have some of us been growing? Are we closer to being like God than we were before? Are we growing only toward what men once were or is it toward something higher than men have ever been?

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: May 26, 2025, 09:54:43 pm »
Amadeus (John) Brilliant to fellowship together again.
I pray that God will fortify you, my very dear old forum friend.
Mike ... (Hugs)

Even so my dear friend and brother in Christ.

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Forgiveness
« on: May 26, 2025, 04:41:28 pm »
Forgiveness. It is something that I strive to work at daily knowing that I cannot, not alone for certain, forgive as I ought. Years ago I printed out Matt 6:9-15, Psalm 91:9-12 and Psalm 25:1-7 on a sheet of paper. Since then I have prayed those words along with my daily morning devotions with God. So then where do we go from here? Where is it that God would lead us if we were to follow? Help us O Lord!

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Our Latest Spiritual Posts / Re: Day by day…
« on: May 26, 2025, 04:25:11 pm »
Aye, saith I because the Lord saith, "Spring up o well!" Good to see old friends still around and communicating.

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Rest awhile in our Lounge / Re: Happy Posting
« on: July 03, 2024, 04:01:14 pm »
CB has always been a busy forum Mike, but it’s content and membership is made up of a wide variety of people and many are very argumentative and judgemental - yes there are many who  are not like that, but it doesn’t always make for a friendly place to post at times.
Here there may only be a few of us but we are friends and can share freely. Sometimes it’s not the size that counts but the atmosphere that matters.
Does it really matter that we don’t talk that often here, or that’s it’s not as busy as you would like it to be. Personally I value the fact that we can keep in contact , because of the friendships. Sure I wish those who originally joined would post, but life gets in the way sometimes.
Enjoy your time on CB, and here.
You wait till the presidential election is nearer, this will be oasis !!!
An OASIS indeed! What "great" choices we have for President? Those on CB will certainly let us know all of the "whys and wherefores". Help us dear Lord!

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Rest awhile in our Lounge / Re: Happy Posting
« on: July 03, 2024, 03:55:36 pm »
by comparison there has already been over 30 posts on CB since my last post yesterday ! :(
A few good things on CB but a whole of bickering and junk. I have learned to skim well in order to hopefully encounter something interesting or uplifting. The good posts exist but sometimes they are buried in the others.

Sometimes I only look at the thread titles and seeing nothing, I simply check "mark forums read" to start from scratch

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Rest awhile in our Lounge / Re: Happy Posting
« on: July 03, 2024, 03:29:49 pm »
Mike your post did not go un-noticed I responded with my affirmative’like’
 At some time I shall do it the justice it deserves but by what I read you know the types and shadows that are for our admonition.
Firstly is there a biblical eighth day, I have to give it a little thought too, plus my time is limited for posting by daily cares, so my favourite scripture on this is  “ and the righteous do not make haste”

Maybe Christianity should be more about what the Lord is doing and not what has been done, Helen’s older brothers wife yesterday was taking an older lady home after she had come to visit Neil who has been afflicted with shingles, they was going through a park road when an old Oak tree crashed onto them trapping them in the car, the car is total write off,  the windshield shattered and both were hit by the pieces, the EMS came to extricate them and were amazed that they survived and they were taken to hospital for treatment to get the glass out of heads and eyes, and HE shall give
His angels charge over thee, comes to mind.
 
Eleven bells here, so the party’s over, time to call it a day, have a kings and priest week Mike.
They were very fortunate indeed not to be seriously injured or worse.

I have not heard anyone speak about the 8th day in a long time. It is one of those things I intended to do a study on but never got around to it.

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